[warfab]

DoD,
Yea mate I have come acoss welders who bag out the guys with the certs, basically because most of them couldnt pass the
test themselves. If anyone can sweat it out in the welding bay and achieve his certificate he has won my respect.
Ive been there myself a number of times now. In my opinion if a bloke applying for a job has some AS1796 quals he will
always get ahead of the guys that don’t.

Warfab

[warfab]

Hi there CC,
You have put the cart before the horse, you should have an approved WPS to work to, what happens now if the test fails?
You will have to assume the weld on the column is un acceptable as well.
AS1554.1 does allow you to qualify a PQR from a production weld but you are running a risk in doing so MMAW isn’t too bad but if you were using GMAW that would be nuts.

Cheers!!

[warfab]

Dieselofdog,

I have been aske the same question mate, basically you have to find an approved RTO who can issue the certification and go through them.
The TAFE system only issues exam papers twice a year, if your welder hasnt already got a cert he may have to do the module
“Select Welding Processes” before he can receive his quals. The prac side of it can pretty much be sat at any time.
I have some TAFE teaching experience and Cert4 TAA, this has helped because I am about to kick off an in-house class of 10 blokes who
will be enrolled through TAFE but I will deliver the training, and we only have to cover enrollment fees and 2 visits from a TAFE assessor.
This makes a big difference to cost, these days a pressure ticket costs around $2300 each and there are no guarantees you will pass.
A lot of blokes choke on the day and fail when they are really good welders.
As you know welders dont have to be certified to AS1796, you can qualify them to just about any code you want if they are good.
Try the WTIA they make visits for welder quals but I think you will pay handsomely for the service:)

Good luck with it mate!!

Warfab

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Hello Slag in Sleve,

I’m gonna say no on this one because the joint designs for an un-backed joint versus a backed join are much different.
In AS1554.1 the prequalified joint preps in Table E show a much larger root gap for a backed joint (4-6mm) compared to an un-backed joint (1-3mm) which is what you would have, to put in a root run with 6010 electrodes).
One of the essential variables in AS1554 is the omission of backing which would require requal.

I think that ASME IX has an allowance for a root run to be classed as backing.. but dont quote me on that one.

May I ask.. why you are worried about it when you mentioned the welds are not to a standard??

Cheers!!

[warfab]

Kav,
Mate you are correct I was looking at AS1554.4 1995, the latest version states 1000 mpa fur tensile.
The tensile strength for biss 500 is 1640 mpa. Still need to answer original question though..
Thanks for responding.
cheers!!!!

[warfab]

Thanks BB,

I see a lot of requests for CSWIP qualifications on job ads, would you personally preferr this to WTIA IWI quals?

[warfab]

BB
Does that mean that you work for yourself?
A lot of blokes are skilling up and working for themselves. Must be where the future is heading..

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