1554.1 2011 Procedure Variables.

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    cassgazz
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    Andrew,

    Clause 4.11a is for procedure qualifications only.
    Clause 4.12 is for qualification of welders, which is positional based only.

    The thickness limits apply only to procedures, not to the welders.

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    Andrew
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    Is not the WPS developed from the WPQ based on the limits of the essential variables of clause 4.11 in which the welders need to be qualified within that range. So that if the welder qualifying to that Procedure steps outside of any of these variables ie Table 4.11(A) plus or minus 25% specified number of runs has to re-qualify the procedure or stay within the essential variables of the first procedure.

    What im trying to say is that if plus or minus 25% runs is an essential variable then the procedure is no good for the thickness limits for but welds .5 to 2 x thickness because the procedure is limited to the number of runs i can use when welding thinner plate.

    Andrew 

    #1764
    cassgazz
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    Hi Andrew,

    You are correct that the WPS is developed from the PQR, however Table 4.11 is for that only – not welder qualifications.

    For welder qualifications, see clause 4.12.2.3. A welder is deemed qualified as long as they are welding to a specified weld procedure, within their positions qualified, and using the process originally qualified.

    I don’t agree with the number of runs essential variable, as it is contradictory to the thickness limits qualified.

    For example – 8mm plate welded both sides, 2 runs per side. The WPS is qualified for 4mm to 16mm.
    25% = 1 run. It would therefore be impossible to weld 16mm plate both sides in 5 passes.

    The way a lot of contractors around this, is to include a statement in the procedure along the lines of “it is recognised that the number of runs may vary with a change in material thickness”.

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